Thursday, April 12, 2007

Re-post: "a video ya'll NEED to watch."

the bullet has spoken

8 comments:

white shadow said...

i figured i'd post this here since i don't feel like going back to other thread. regarding rear brake usage/not usage i came to find out what i'm really doing wrong today when out riding; i'm down shifting to fast & that (not the brake per se) is what's causing the lock up. unlike some of you guys (ok maybe all of you, barring marc) have slipper clutches, while i do not. so, i can't down shift while at 7K (or probably even 6K for that matter) w/out causing the back end to slide. so, now that i know the problem i know what to work on. don't you all feel so much better? i know i do. LOL

el penguin said...

Well i'm gald to figured it out now before we hit the twisties Alan! But also ... try make sure you're in the gear you want to be in for the exit of the tun BEFORE the trun starts, this'll help smooth your line and settle the bike.

T - nice posts! I think for this upcomong riding season we'll be taking a lot easier while out on the highway cause like I said, there's no skill in twisting a throttle. That, and I don't want any more tickets/points!!
Once we're out on the back roads though, I'll still be riding as hard as my bike/brain/sense will allow.

D2 said...

glad that you figured it out white shadow... i am start calling you shadow... much more gansta...

The Bullet said...

Shadow- aside from what E said, which sounds good to me, if you're breaking hard, do you "blip" the throttle during your downshifts? I always heard about it but didn't actually do it until I went to the track. They ran drills until we got it right during my time there and it seemed to help, especially for us non-slipper clutch having cats. Blipping may also work to keep you settled as you break hard.

J.R. Anderson said...

strong work shadow!

the blipping during the downshift definitely helps, i kinda stumbled upon that a few months ago because i too chirped the back tire a few times on a down shift. i know a dude who went down on the jackie robinson a few years back right before the chicane and he said he downshifted too late... once i saw he was okay, i went and looked at his skid/slide marks and the bike came within inches of the concrete shoulder! that is always incentive for me to downshift early enough or just stay in that gear and ride it out. my bike always seems to have enough torque to get me through thankfully.

white shadow said...

yeah, i can blip like it's nobody's business that's not the problem. my problem is let's say i downshift from 3rd to 2nd and i'm at about 8.5Krpm when i d/s and blip i'll still be turning around 7.5Krpm & the back end will skid. i think, now that i really think about it, that i'm just being too slow with the clutch release & am shifting too soon to begin with. i think what i need to do is slow down more first via the brake (duh, that's what they're for) before i start to d/s. there...i feel much better! i think that's the problem. thanks for all the help guys. oh, i got my pants in today. man they're gonna be hot! they match up with my full circumference jacket zipper, so next ride up to bear mtn. or catskills, i'll be sporting those for sure.

white shadow said...

oh, & i think part of the problem is that i'm staying too high in the revs, so maybe be in a gear higher, but lower in the rev range. that will help with me being too high in the revs when d/s i think.

J.R. Anderson said...

shadow, sounds about right to me...
slow down B, we all know that engine braking is quick on these things compared to most cars. your bike knows when it wants to d/s, just ask it, if she doesn't cooperate, ask her again. if that doesn't work, watch the animated karma sutra over because she maybe she just isn't responding well to that type of stroke....thats my advice anyway.